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The Oregon standoff at the Malheur Reserve was terminated on January 26, 2016 when one of its primary figures, LaVoy Finicum, was shot to death by government agents. Perhaps reminding us of another stand-off in Texas, the Branch Davidian, Waco Seige engineered by Janet Reno.
Arizona rancher, LaVoy Finicum, was shot to death by FBI agents. Two eyewitnesses claim he was surrendering with his hands in the air when he was shot.
The FBI claims he was reaching towards his pocket for a weapon. Critics point out that he may well just have been trying to balance himself in the slippery, deep snow or was grabbing his side involuntarily after having already been shot from behind by a government shooter.
LaVoy Finicum, Ryan Payne, Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox and Victoria Sharp were on U.S. Highway 395 headed for the John Day Senior Center in John Day Oregon in Grant County about a 135 mile distance from the Malheur National Wildlife Preserve (approximately a 2 1/2 hour trip).
They were scheduled to speak at the evening community center about the protest at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in adjoining Harney County at 6:00 p.m. They reached the roadblock at about 4:30 p.m.
Meanwhile, several hundred people had gathered at the John Day Senior Center, waiting in vain for “guest speakers” that would never arrive.
The occupiers were invited to the meeting by law enforcement.
As it turned out, it was apparently a set up meant to isolate the group in a cell phone dead zone on a road that had been blocked off for 60 miles by law enforcement.
If you take the time to watch the silent FBI drone video of the shooting (so you actually know what you are talking about if you form an opinion on this event), it appears that LaVoy was being hit in the left side before the fatal head shot. He was most likely reaching down instinctively to the area of pain which any normal person would do.
After the shooting, rubber bullets were found at the sanitized scene. The vehicle had been removed and relocated which according to Victoria Sharp testified was riddled with over 120 rounds.
The analysis of the video is from the viewpoint of trained combat veterans, including one who was a part of the State Department as an Army Liaison Officer of PsyOps etc.
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1. The agents at the first stop never cleared their vehicles. They maintained positions next to their vehicles and fired on Ryan Payne on the passenger side when he reached out with both hands empty to speak with them.
Visible at 2:07 of the unedited video or 27:39 of the video markings (upper left corner of the video). At 29:32 an agent sets up in the snow to get a better shot at the passengers. He is quickly called back to the vehicle because they were still in pursuit mode and was needed to get back into the vehicle quickly.
Note: If it was a felony stop, they would have taken the tires out with fire, and forced the occupants out of the vehicle.
Instead, they kept them in the vehicle with 4 weapons trained on the van occupants, not impeding the operation of the van in any way giving the driver no choice of exit but to press forward towards the ambush zone and into the crumple set up blockade.
2. At 34:47 of the video (or 9:14) the vehicles parked in the road arranged in “crumple zone” formation can be seen. Even if the vehicle was going 100 miles an hour it could not have gotten through the blockade because the two forward vehicles were arranged to take the bulk of the initial impact. Then, fold into the vehicle parked in the back.
There was a slope on the right so he had only one choice to go which was to the left.
An agent then jumped in front of the vehicle and took stance and fired into the windshield. LaVoy instead of running over the agent to get around the blockade (which he could have done) swerved further into the snow to avoid the agent, stopping the van.
3. LaVoy exits the Van immediately after it stopped with his hands in the air (34:54 or 9:18 of the video). An agent emerges from the blockade and starts firing on LaVoy from the rear appearing to hit him in the side (35:00 or 9:28 on video).
There is no blood visible in the snow, so it is possible that shots were not from a lethal weapon (rubber bullets were found at the scene afterwards). LaVoy’s hands go to his side, likely as a response to the bullets hitting him in the left side.
Since the video was not clear and from a distance, there is no possible way to determine that he was attempting to draw a weapon. That is simply an assumption.
The fact is evident however that he was being fired on from the rear and in a position that would have hit him on the left side of his body which is the location that his hands went to.
4. After LaVoy is turned, at 35:02 or 9:29, another agent emerges from the tree line and begins to fire on LaVoy from the rear. The weapon was strange looking but it drops LaVoy after the head shot. Still no blood in the snow, another oddity. LaVoy is motionless after the head shot.
5. The head shot agent moves to the left and begins to dismantle his weapon. By 35:14 or 10:02, he has no weapon in his hands.
6. Fire is then brought upon the vehicle from the tree line noted by flash fires and snow being kicked up. At 36:20 or 10:47 two bullet holes are notable in the windshield of the vehicle. One on the passenger side and one on the driver side.
7. At 38:55 snow is still being kicked up. LaVoy is motionless and mutiple lasers are trained on his head (6 or more) which continues until he leaves the video view.
8. At 14:08 of the YouTube, there is an sharp jerk in the video and 39:40 stays on the video for two seconds indicating an edit.
9. At 46:44 or 26:28, there is another sharp change in the daylight (darkening as it was twilight) when the agents are gathered around the body of LaVoy indicating another possible edit.
Shawna Cox’s eyewitness description of the event notes that when the van first stopped before they reached the “crumple” vehicle set-up road block, the first reaction to any of their actions was a shot fired. No warning, simply a shot fired. In short, the Feds fired upon the van without provocation.
She also noted that she believes LaVoy jumped out of the van to draw away fire from the van. Shawna also notes that laser light dots were all over every one of them.
Shawna said that hundreds of bullets were fired, even after LaVoy was down. You can see laser dots trained on Finicum’s head after he was felled.
Shawna affirmed that LaVoy Finicum offered no threat or resistance during the event and was “killed in cold blood”.
When the bullets finally paused after Finicum was downed, the government and/or OSP told the remaining passengers to send the men out first, then the woman.
Shawna guessed that over twenty, well equipped shooters came out of the woods. Obviously, they were not there by coincidence. After they asked the van passengers if anyone else was in the van and were told there were none, they peppered the van with many more rounds.
If you watch the video, you can skip past the 1st nine minutes. The action described does not really begin until about that point since there is no audio. You can’t for example hear the first shots fired when the van stopped the first time.
In short, as noted by the radio interviewer set up person, one could liken this to a “canned hunt” except humans were the prey, not trophy animals.
According to Blaine Cooper, one of the occupants at the reserve, Finicum (who had been photographed wearing a holstered revolver) had left all of his weapons at the refuge before leaving for the meeting at John Day.
When they left to go over to the other county, all of them left their weapons behind. As far as I know, Ammon wasn’t armed, LaVoy wasn’t armed, all of LaVoy’s weapons were at the refuge when he left.
This was corroborated by Shawna Fox during a telephone interview. This was also confirmed by others including an investigation outside the official investigation conducted by journalist from Montana, John Lamb.
BTW, LaVoy carried a old style, 6 shooter and wore it in his holster on the right side of his body. Why would he be reaching to the left to retrieve a weapon he wore in a holster on his right side? He obviously did not carry his accustomed 6 shooter.
The Oregon State troopers press conference on March 19, 2016 reported that Finicum was reaching for a loaded 9 mm weapon which they said was in his left pocket. Then, was shot 3 times when he did not comply with their commands to go down to the ground.
They showed the weapon in his pocket as a bulge and then in a picture. However, Finicum carried his gun on his side in a holster, not in his pocket, which they also noted.
Why would he exit the vehicle with his hands in the air with the intent of using a 9 mm handgun inconveniently located in his coat pocket? Doesn’t seem like a very well though out plan of attack.
FBI agents and trooper also surrounded the body after the shooting as noted in the drone video. How do we know that a weapon was not planted in his pocket or if the bulge was even a weapon? It could have been something else, like a cell phone perhaps?
The facts are a bit sketchy here and too easy to construct to fit the story (nearly 2 full months after the incident) it would seem.
They also stated that a total of only 8 shots were fired. This does not comport with the statements from the occupants of the vehicle, nor in fact Shawna Cox’s cell phone video.
Windows were being shot out during the video yet only four shots were id’d into the vehicle during the press conference.This portion of Shawna Cox’s was not shown during the conference.
The vehicle was removed from the scene and never fully examined by anyone other than the FBI and police. Kind of sounds like what happened to JFK’s vehicle. Just disappeared and was refitted in Michigan apparently.
The Oregon State troopers report that all of the shots were justified. They determined that 3 shots were fired into Finicum’s torso in the area of the back. If the Oregon State trooper was holding a taser (presumably to make the arrest without using lethal force) how did 3 bullet holes end up in LaVoy Finicum’s back?
After all, tasers don’t leave bullet holes do they?
None of the Oregon State troopers were identified allegedly to protect their safety.
Additionally, the video shows an armed shooter hitting Finicum in the head from behind with a shot (as noted by the release of a stream of material from the head area) that appears to have been the fatal shot which killed him.
That shooter then moves to the left (as noted above) and dismantles whatever weapon he used to fire that shot and likely kill Finicum. This was not noted during the press conference.
Also of note, during the press conference, is that the Dan Norris, the DA from Oregon County, paused overcome with emotion, for a full 10 seconds (31:34 to 31:44 on the press conference video) after thanking the IG and the Sherrif’s County for their “meticulous work” on the investigation.
He then moves to the rear wall and continues to wipe a few tears away as Tim Colahan, Harley County DA affirms that LaVoy Finicum was fully responsible for what happened to him.
Seems like there may have been more to this story than was reported at the press conference since it is unlikely that he was a fan of LaVoy Finicum. Why the obvious emotion and the comforting pat from the sherrif afterwards? Could it be that there was more to this than was expressed?
All the FBI showed as evidence was a grainy, long distance, overhead shot from a drone. Why a drone view from a distance? This raises the question of other videos. In an operation with this level of public awareness, were there no other video cameras or audio? No dash cams or body cams/mics on the troopers or FBI agents? Highly unlikely if not impossible.
We know that Shawna Cox made a video from the van itself on her smart phone. A copy of that video may be seen below. You can synchronize the events from the cell phone video with the drone imagery and fit the event together more accurately:[youtube_advanced url=”https://youtu.be/eEswP_HSFV4″ controls=”no” rel=”no” theme=”light”]
There are other questions but these are a few that could stand some answers. After all, if it were the case that an unarmed man surrendering was shot, shouldn’t there be some prosecution of the perpetrator? Justice would demand so.
Why is it that government is able do things that would get a normal citizen arrested without a thorough investigation or punishment levied?
The media settles for a grainy overhead shot from such a distance that tactically omits the audio. No real substantial evidence is produced to counter eyewitness accounts.
What about the truck itself? Like Kennedy’s shooting, it was taken away and has not been used in the examination of evidence.
As the New American pointed out:
In releasing the initial aerial video, Agent Bretzing said “we want to do what we can to lay out an honest and unfiltered view of what happened and how it happened.” He also said that in spite of the graphic details included in the video, “we feel that it is necessary to show the whole thing unedited in the interest of transparency.”
Is a drone shot video with NO audio really the best they can come up with in this age of technology?
Surely if a citizen was doing the shooting, they would exhaust all avenues of evidence to uncover the facts of the event.
Yet the mainstream media, as they have done with other past events, simply accepts the government story without question based on partial evidence at best- a doctored drone shot with no audio.
It may seem that the assumed takeover of a Federal Reserve could only end in this way. However, as noted by one of the observers in the video who had visited the site and spoke with LaVoy a few days before he was shot, it was not the takeover described by the media.
The public could still visit this sanctuary. The ranchers were not immediately obvious and did not interfere with visitation. The ranchers were using this location intentionally as a means of bringing national attention to a growing problem, the Federal takeover through the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) of private property.
As pointed out in my previous post on the issue, the Federal government already owns over 28% of the public land. If you factor in State ownership it is over a third now. They have been exceeded the public parks and are continually grabbing more control over more land.
Obama, the Peace President, offered his take on the issue through his actions, not a statement. On February 12 of this year, about three weeks after the shooting. Obama signed an executive order which locked up 1.8 million acres of California land. This is yet another audacious executive action and unconstitutional usurpation of citizen freedoms.
Turns out that Obama has isolated more public land than any previous President, 2.85 million acres. He has used the Antiquities Act of 1906 twenty-two times. Exceeded in number only by FDR but not in area.
The latest order creates three new illegally generated monuments. One is the Mojave Trails National Monument (1.6 million acres). Another is the Sand to Snow National Monument (154,000 acres). The third is the Castle Mountains National Monument (21,000 acres).
Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation were implicated in profits of millions from a deal involving the uranium bearing land in Wyoming. As noted by the New York Times, the deal involved a company called Uranium One which eventually through 3 separate deals between 2009 and 2013 gave control of the land over to a Russian company- Rosatom. The New York Times reported:
The sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States.
Since uranium is considered a strategic asset, with implications for national security, the deal had to be approved by a committee composed of representatives from a number of United States government agencies.
Among the agencies that eventually signed off was the State Department, then headed by Mr. Clinton’s wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Catch that? The sale was implicated in “donations” to the Clinton Foundation of millions. It ended up giving control of 1/5th of all uranium production capacity to the Russians! This rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper as you begin to see where the government is aiming its land grabs. It ain’t good for the American public. As noted, Hillary was Secretary of State at the time and was involved as one of the agencies signing off on the deal. Nothing like a little conflict of interest huh?
Additionally, according to the Obama executive order, these new monuments will support “climate resiliency in the region”. Translated this means the newly “protected” areas will be off limits mining, mineral exploration, oil and gas drilling, grazing, timber harvest or even recreational uses such as camping, hiking, hunting, fishing, horseback riding and off-hand vehicle usage. As the title of the article on this new order reads: Monumental Audacity. And so it is. Read a full article on this new land grab and its implications here.
So, when will the Federal land grabbing stop by the BLM? When all of us own no private property perhaps? That may be the plan. See Agenda 21 for more details.
Obviously, as Obama’s latest land grab demonstrates, the Federal government isn’t in the process of ratcheting any of their efforts down to take more public land under their control. Almost two million more acres is their response.
So, the Federal Leviathan strengthens its grip. The courage of LaVoy Finicum should not go unnoticed.
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